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		<title>Natural Building at Kinsale College</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The flagship project at the Kinsale College has always been the Cordwood Amphitheatre. This unique structure- the only load-bearing cordwood building that I know of- was constructed in about 2001 by Rob Hopkins and his permaculture students and has provided a wonderful venue for the drama course, lead by Belinda Wild, to perform their annual [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flagship project at the Kinsale College has always been the Cordwood Amphitheatre. This unique structure- the only load-bearing cordwood building that I know of- was constructed in about 2001 by Rob Hopkins and his permaculture students and has provided a wonderful venue for the drama course, lead by Belinda Wild, to perform their annual play.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s773.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s773-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s773" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-833" /></a></p>

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<div id="attachment_840" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/Image0242.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/Image0242-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Image0242" width="225" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-840" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Drama tutors Belinda and Ian Wild</p></div>

<p>Although a big part of the theater&#8217;s appeal and charm is its open-air status, this has proved a nerve-racking experience for the drama tutors and students who had to cancel a couple of precious performances one year, or on occasion have been performing in heavy rain.</p>

<p>A temporary cover was in place last year but this year saw the creation of a stunning addition of a double-reciprocal-frame roof over the seating area, constructed by chainsaw-wizard Christy Collard.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6853.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6853-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6853" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-834" /></a></p>

<p>Christy also helped with the outdoor kitchen nestled just below the amphitheatre, completed last year.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6850.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6850-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6850" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-835" /></a></p>

<div id="attachment_836" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6835.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6835-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6835" width="150" height="150" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-836" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Pizza oven in outdoor kitchen</p></div>

<p>I also chose the reciprocal frame for my first building as tutor here, the Cordwood Roundhouse, built just behind the stage, for use as a classroom and changing room for actors during performances.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6848.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6848-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6848" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-837" /></a></p>

<p>This was actually built as a training building, a composition of different styles and methods, including cordwood and cob- &#8220;cobwood&#8221;- a straw-bale wall to the north, hemp-lime and clay straw in a stud wall to the west.  It is now approaching completion and can be used as classroom and workshop from next year.</p>

<p>&#8220;Natural building&#8221;  usually refers to the use of natural materials such as cob, straw-bale, round-poles etc, but this year I made a radical departure with the introduction of the college&#8217;s first stud-frame timber building, which has proved a huge success in training students in specific skills. Alex Gazzaniga, already known to Zone5 readers for my <a href="http://zone5.org/2010/02/goodbye-to-the-bucket-toilet/">compost toilet</a> has taught this course with us and done a great job.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6841.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6841-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6841" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-838" /></a></p>

<p>Finally, I should not forget the first building constructed by the permaculture course, a delightful small straw-bale cottage.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6851.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_s6851-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_s6851" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-839" /></a></p>

<p>The opportunity to be involved in the design and construction of our own buildings and classrooms at Kinsale College is a unique opportunity for students and staff and we are very proud of all these buildings.</p>

<p>Despite the constraints of space in a small campus, we will continue to build new innovative structures and do our best to inspire and train the next generation of green building students.</p>

<p>Thanks to all the students and building tutors over the years who have helped make the Kinsale college such a special place.</p>

<p><strong><em> This year&#8217;s college play will be Shakespeare&#8217;s &#8220;Love Labours Lost&#8221; at the college amphitheater
May 6,7,8; and 12,13,14 and 15th at 8pm
College Box office: 086 3648112</p>

<p>The College Open Day will be May 15th from 2pm</em></p>
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		<title>Humble Homes, Simple Shacks</title>
		<link>http://zone5.org/2010/04/humble-homes-simple-shacks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Book Review: Humble Homes, Simple Shacks, Cozy Cottages, Ramshackle Retreats, Funky Forts by Derek &#8220;Deek&#8221; Diedricksen After seeing a short film by Deek Diedricksen linked on Energy Bulletin, which demonstrates his ultra-tiny dwelling called the Hickshaw, I was inspired to write to him for a review copy which, once he had had a look at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book Review:
<strong>Humble Homes, Simple Shacks, Cozy Cottages, Ramshackle Retreats, Funky Forts</p>

<p>by Derek &#8220;Deek&#8221; Diedricksen
</strong>
<a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/Humble-Homes-Simple-Shacks-Cozy-Cottages-Ramshackle-Retreats-Funky-Forts-150x150.png"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/Humble-Homes-Simple-Shacks-Cozy-Cottages-Ramshackle-Retreats-Funky-Forts-150x150.png" alt="" title="Humble-Homes-Simple-Shacks-Cozy-Cottages-Ramshackle-Retreats-Funky-Forts-150x150" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-827" /></a></p>

<p>After seeing a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEvYT3CMtQI">short film</a> by <a href="http://relaxshax.wordpress.com/">Deek Diedricksen</a> linked on Energy Bulletin, which demonstrates his ultra-tiny dwelling called the Hickshaw, I was inspired to write to him for a review copy which, once he had had a look at this blog, he was generous to do a trade for.</p>

<p>In hand-written, home-made &#8220;zine&#8221; style, filled with sketches and whacky ideas of tiny shelters and dwellings as well as cool ideas for rain water collection and solar showers, this is probably one of the more unusual and original books on construction you will find.</p>

<p>More a collection of ideas from the clearly maze-like mind of Deek than a detailed step-by-step construction guide (the author warns off anyone looking for detailed plans in the first few pages) there is a wealth of inspiration for the would-be self-builder on a budget.</p>

<p>Especially useful are many suggestions for creating low-budget  extra rooms, sheds and garden structures and kids hideouts. Many have design features for multiple-function and adaptability, such as the Expandable Greenhouse/shed/guest house/Back-woods Camp.</p>

<p>There are a couple of projects we might be able to try at the Kinsale College for Green Building students- Ill post up pictures if we do.</p>

<p>Deek specializes in tiny buildings, some of them on wheels, some floating, some underground, some in trees such as his own cabin in Vermont.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/cabin-exterior-2.jpg"><img src="http://zone5uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/cabin-exterior-2.jpg" alt="" title="cabin-exterior-2" width="224" height="300" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-828" /></a></p>

<p>Unusual and innovative, with lots of tips on good uses for recycled materials, <em>Humble Homes</em> provides the perfect antidote to the cornucopian binge of McMansions we have seen on both sides of the Atlantic in recent years.</p>
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		<title>Solar Power on the Shortest Day</title>
		<link>http://zone5.org/2009/12/solar-power-on-the-shortest-day/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is now exactly 6 months since I set up my 600watt at Derryduff. Having now reached the shortest days of the year I am in a position to evaluate its performance, and I can say it has served me very well. Obviously there has been a huge difference in power availability between summer and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is now exactly 6 months since I set up my 600watt  at Derryduff.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/winter-solstice1.jpg"><img src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/winter-solstice1-225x300.jpg" alt="winter solstice" title="winter solstice" width="225" height="300" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-782" /></a></p>

<p>Having now reached the shortest days of the year I am in a position to evaluate its performance, and I can say it has served me very well. Obviously there has been a huge difference in power availability between summer and winter, but in fact the last 10 days here have seen constant sunshine -along with freezing temperatures- and I have probably had more power so far in December than October.</p>

<p>As I said in the earlier post, on a system like this you cut your cloth according to your measure, so giving an account of my energy consumption would be misleading- I would use more electricity if i had it! In fact though I use and need very little- on average 1-2Kwh/day would be loads to run computer, one or two lights, radio and some power tool use. Some days I would use more, and I made good use of an electric chainsaw during the longer days. The only major increase in power consumption is likely to come from a washing machine which I intend to get in the near future, the model I am looking at only uses 1.2kw per cycle, and would easily be achievable on any sunny day any time of the year.<a href="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/winter-solstice-2.jpg"><img src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/winter-solstice-2-225x300.jpg" alt="winter solstice 2" title="winter solstice 2" width="225" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-778" /></a></p>

<p>I did run short of power a couple of weeks ago and have invested in a small petrol generator as a back up, mainly to protect the batteries, and to ensure I need never be without some power if I want it. I have only had to run the generator on a handful of evenings during cloudy weather when I have run the batteries down with power tools during the day; it would not however be too much of a hardship to do without the generator and only use power when available.</p>

<p>To increase power availability I could put up a wind turbine, but at this stage it might be better to invest in more batteries- I only have approx. 1000Amph storage at present- and maybe a couple more PV panels. This might be sufficient as I dont expect to be increasing my electricity consumption drastically any time soon. The great advantage of PV over wind is that there are no moving parts, no maintenance and they are modular- I can add in more panels whenever I have some spare cash.</p>

<p>In short I am satisfied that I can live just on a modest solar array even in cloudy gray Ireland. For my situation it has been a good option; for a family of four, maybe not unless supplemented by wind.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/range1.jpg"><img src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/range1-225x300.jpg" alt="range" title="range" width="225" height="300" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-783" /></a>I also want to mention my new Rayburn wood burning range that I  installed in the cabin just this weekend. It replaces a cast iron stove, but I missed the range  from the roundhouse for baking, and I am delighted with it so far. Ranges are a great option, doing everything at once: space heating, water heating, oven for baking, hob for cooking. It might require a little more wood than the stove, but that is one source of fuel I have plenty of. It should mean I use less gas for cooking at least in the winter months, and increases resilience as I could do without gas altogether if I had to.</p>

<p>Best of all, the range was free- many thanks to Liam and Ger who were replacing it with an oil burner, and to Ciara who pointed them in my direction!</p>

<p>We also got to play with the PV demonstration panel we have at the Kinsale college.</p>

<p><a href="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/kinsale-pv.jpg"><img src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/kinsale-pv-150x150.jpg" alt="kinsale pv" title="kinsale pv" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-780" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/kinsale-pv-2.jpg"><img src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/kinsale-pv-2-150x150.jpg" alt="kinsale pv 2" title="kinsale pv 2" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-781" /></a></p>

<p>The meter reads 3.19 amps from an 80watt panel.</p>
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		<title>Kinsale College on YouTube</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinsale College of Further Education has recently posted a new video promoting the course on You Tube. Click here to see the video which includes myself very briefly desribing the course modules, and a few shots of the college  gardens. The drama, art, multimedia and outdoor pursuits courses are also covered. There is also an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinsale College of Further Education has recently posted a new video promoting the course on You Tube. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtVQpn_S2E8">Click here</a> to see the video which includes myself very briefly desribing the course modules, and a few shots of the college  gardens. The drama, art, multimedia and outdoor pursuits courses are also covered.</p>

<p>There is also an excellent clip here from the Nationwide TV programme available<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzVmIuEWw-A"> here</a>, which was made with the courses&#8217; founder Rob Hopkins in 2005, with interviews with the students and good coverage of the now famous cordwood amphitheatre.<img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-444" title="easter-hunthouse-429" src="http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/easter-hunthouse-429-150x150.jpg" alt="easter-hunthouse-429" width="150" height="150" /></p>

<p>Full details on the practical sustainability and other courses at Kinsale can be found <a href="http://www.kinsalefurthered.ie/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Rob Hopkins on Permaculture and the Kinsale College</title>
		<link>http://zone5.org/2008/05/rob-hopkins-on-permaculture-and-the-kinsale-college/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To mark the end of an era and the retirement of John Thuillier as director of the Kinsale FEC, Zone5 has managed to secure this exclusive and enlightening interview with Rob Hopkins who founded the unique 2-year course in Practical Sustainability 7 years ago. Thanks also to Rob for sending on some photos from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To mark the end of an era and the retirement of John Thuillier as director of the <a href="http://www.kinsalefurthered.ie/">Kinsale FEC</a>, Zone5 has managed to secure this exclusive and enlightening interview with <a href="http://transitionculture.org/">Rob Hopkins</a> who founded the unique 2-year course in Practical Sustainability 7 years ago.
Thanks also to Rob for sending on some photos from the early days of the course which I have placed though the interview along with some recent ones from the past year.</p>

<p><strong>When did you first move to Ireland?</strong></p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399249.jpg' title='Rob loves his pizza' ><img class='inthepageright' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399249.thumbnail.jpg' title='Rob loves his pizza' alt='Rob loves his pizza' /></a></p>

<p>I moved in September 1996, from Bristol. I had just finished my degree and my second child was about 6 months old.  From a house in the middle of Bristol to a mouse-overrun farmhouse up a lane near Skibbereen.  I had lived in cold houses before, but this one was COLD. From the moment I arrived though, I absolutely loved it.<span id="more-135"></span></p>

<p><strong>Did you already have the idea of starting the course when you first came over?</strong></p>

<p>No, not at all.  When I moved I hadn&#8217;t yet done any teaching.  I had done my Design Course in 1992, and had been involved in the Bristol Permaculture Group for a few years.  I had assisted on a couple of Patrick Whitefield&#8217;s Design Courses, but hadn&#8217;t done any teaching as such.  It was about 6 months after we moved that I taught my first permaculture course,  an introductory weekend, at my  in-laws&#8217; house.  Our plan when we moved was to set up an eco-village, and to build strawbale houses&#8230;</p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/R001003.jpg' title='Straw bale house' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/R001003.thumbnail.jpg' title='Straw bale house' alt='Straw bale house' /></a></p>

<p><strong>How did you go about approaching colleges- was Kinsale the first one you tried?</strong></p>

<p>Actually the precursor to the Kinsale course was a Design Course done as an evening class that I did at Rossa College in Skibbereen 1999-2000.  It was the first Design Course I ever taught, and it was a wonderful experience.  They often say that the best way to learn something is to tell yourself that you are going to be teaching it in 3 weeks time&#8230; I remember that I had always avoided the section on Pattern in the Designers Manual, and I had to read everything I could get my hands on about patterns, it was great.</p>

<p>There were some fascinating people did that course, some are still off doing interesting stuff.  It was a real baptism by fire but the feedback was very encouraging, and like these courses usually do, it created a dynamic community of people.  I asked the college there if they would be interested in running a full time version, but the Principal was unconvinced, he really didn&#8217;t understand what I was talking about!  I also approached Colaiste Stiofan Naoife (sorry, Graham, you&#8217;ll have to check that spelling for me, it&#8217;s been a while!) in Cork, who were kind of interested, but they wanted it to be part of their Horticulture course, and the head of that department made it pretty clear that if the course ran there, he was the boss.  Then I talked to Belinda Wild, a friend of mine, who was teaching Drama at Kinsale, and she suggested I talk to John. <a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5190010_01.jpg' title='The Government Inspector' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5190010_01.thumbnail.jpg' title='The Government Inspector' alt='The Government Inspector' /></a></p>

<p>I rang him up and he was keen to meet, so we met for about half an hour, and he got it straight away.  I remember I asked him how many people we&#8217;d need for it to be viable.  He said 15, did I think we&#8217;d get that many?  The first year we had 24, and from then on it was overbooked every year.</p>

<p><strong>It was the first course of its kind to be tried in ireland, especially the permaculture modules- how did you first sell the concept to John?</strong></p>

<p>Great question!  I don&#8217;t remember.  I think I rang him first and said that it was a design system that brought together food, building, energy, economics and so on.  I don&#8217;t remember what was the key thing that &#8216;sold&#8217; it to him&#8230; be interesting to hear from him.  Would be helpful in developing a permaculture &#8216;elevator pitch&#8217;.. how to sell permaculture in 20 seconds!<a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P4280006.jpg' title='John Thuillier' ><img class='inthepageright' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P4280006.thumbnail.jpg' title='John Thuillier' alt='John Thuillier' /></a></p>

<p>I do remember him telling me that if we were to run it we would need an official permaculture module, which was something I had been developing already for Skibbereen, so I think he was impressed by the fact that I had already started working on that and had done my NCVA homework!</p>

<p><strong>What was his response? In what ways did John help develop the course in its first year?</strong></p>

<p>Without John the course would never have happened.  Not just in terms of giving it the go-ahead, but also in his management.  The wonderful thing about John was that he never told me I couldn&#8217;t do any of the projects I suggested to him.  Can we dig up the lawn?  Grand.  Can we build a strawbale house?  Grand.  Can we hemp and lime plaster our classroom? <a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399409.jpg' title='Hemp/lime' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399409.thumbnail.jpg' title='Hemp/lime' alt='Hemp/lime' /></a></p>

<p>Grand.  Can we build this amphitheatre on the strength of this sketch on the back of an envelope?  Grand.  I think he proved to be an extraordinary manager in that way.  He trusted that you would do something unless you proved otherwise.</p>

<p>He also took a creative approach to interpreting the rules without which the course would have been very difficult.  That first year we got funded teaching time for 3 days a week with just one module!  Impossible now, but he bent over backwards to make sure that course got a fair chance.  I think the main thing was that he trusted the teacher (ie. me) and he trusted the idea, and he was genuinely excited about what the course was doing, and how it was affecting people. <a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399225.jpg' title='Modelling the amphitheater' ><img class='inthepageright' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/july10399225.thumbnail.jpg' title='Modelling the amphitheater' alt='Modelling the amphitheater' /></a> It created a buzz from pretty early on and my sense was that he was very proud that that buzz was eminating from his college.  I also felt that as someone with many years in education, it was that buzz that he most wanted to encourage, and indeed it was what he felt education to be about, so he was delighted to see this odd new course generating it.</p>

<p><strong>How did you go about building the team of tutors?</strong></p>

<p>Well the first year it was just me and Philip, who was already there, but we seldom met as we were in on different days.   Paul O&#8217;Flynn was the boyfriend of one of the students from the first year, Chloe, so I came to know of the work he had been doing.  Thomas I knew, of course, as we lived together at The Hollies, and he had been doing lots of work on consensus stuff.  We didn&#8217;t really advertise for the teaching posts, again, John trusted me to bring in the people I thought would do a good job.  That also went for people I brought in as guest speakers or all the visits we went on.  It was wonderful, as the course grew, to be able to assemble people whose teaching expertise I respected, and to give them the status, both in terms of being more formally recognised as teachers, and in the fact that they got paid, which they deserved.</p>

<p><strong>The course has become the largest course in the college- we have 40 booked and as many as that again on the waiting list- did you envisage that it would become so popular?</strong></p>

<p>No, not at all.  I was flabbergasted every year.  It was full earlier and earlier.  By the end of my time there, I wouldn&#8217;t have  been surprised to see people auction their places on the course on Ebay!   It felt like such a great testament to John&#8217;s gamble in putting the course on.  I had told him that we could get enough people, and did we ever!  The fact that the course developed such a reputation, and continues to do so to this day, is one of the things in my life I am most proud of.  And what a wonderful collection of people too, from all over the place, and I still bump into them in the most unusual places, and I always fascinated and delighted to hear what they are doing now and how their time in Kinsale changed their lives.</p>

<p><strong>At the same time there needs to be more courses on Permaculture elsewhere and this has not yet happened- what needs to be done to help roll out permaculture courses through the education system?</strong></p>

<p>We need to tell the Kinsale story more.  We need to create  careers for people so that there are jobs to go into with a permaculture qualification.  We need to make the point, clearly and in academic/educational circles, that education is preparing people for a world that no longer exists.  You want a course that actually does prepare people, reskills them, inspires them, gives them the thinking and design tools for a post-oil world?  We&#8217;ve already designed it, and been testing it for 8 years.  It works, and it is urgently needed everywhere.  I think also that we need, if it is to spread virally across the education system, to be mindful of the fact that many of the things that attract some of the students actively turn off many thousands more, i.e. the more blatantly &#8216;alternative&#8217; aspects.  If we are to mainstream this stuff we need to take a long, sober look at that I think, and see that some of the barriers to its wider disemination may be of our own making.</p>

<p><strong>Have there been any similar attempts to start such courses in the UK?</strong></p>

<p>There is the Sustainable Land Use course at Worcester College of Agriculture and the MSc at CAT.  However, it is only since returning here that I have really become aware of how extraordinary what we did in Kinsale is.  It would be hard to set something up here that was so generalist, ran for so long, allowed such a free reign in terms of the practical/academic balance, and all for £150!  The Kinsale course found a particularly fertile piece of edge in the Irish education system.  I&#8217;m sure it would be possible here, but I have really come to appreciate how extraordinarily lucky it was that I picked up the phone to John after chatting with Belinda.</p>

<p>**How did your time in Kinsale help prepare you for launching the Transition Movement in the UK?</p>

<p>Teaching in Kinsale allowed me, I think, to design the permaculture course I always wished I had done myself (the Design Course I did was pretty disappointing, but still succeeded in changing my life).  I also had trememdous freedom there to play around with ideas, and to invite guest teachers along who I wanted to learn from.  The Kinsale Energy Descent Action Plan only really came about because I was able to design the projects for the students which I felt passionate about, and because, as second years, they already had a great grounding in permaculture thinking.</p>

<p>Its funny, because when I was in Ireland, I often looked back to the UK and saw that as being a place where lots of amazing &#8216;green&#8217; stuff was happening, whereas it felt much harder to get people interested in Ireland.  Since returning here though, I found that the freedom to do things and try things out that I had in Ireland actually gives me the kind of wildly eclectic CV that something like  Transition can only emerge from.  It is often said that permaculture is about becoming a generalist, not an expert, and Transition is very much based on that too, so my time in Kinsale allowed me very much to deepen my generalism and to become, as Albert Bates puts it, a well qualified post-petroleumologist.</p>

<p><strong>In what areas do you think permaculture has proved itself in practice?</strong></p>

<p>My sense is that where permaculture is coming more and more to the fore is not as techniques but as guiding design principles.  My thinking with Transition was to design a way of making those principles implicit but not explicit.  David Holmgren&#8217;s book on permaculture principles makes clear that for many permaculture is about herb spirals or forest gardens, and many of those practical applications, such as edible landscaping, <a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5060048.jpg' title='edible landscaping' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5060048.thumbnail.jpg' title='edible landscaping' alt='edible landscaping' /></a></p>

<p>have become increasingly adopted although rarely credited to permaculture.  I think permaculture has proved to have the insights in terms of design and how we pull together the disparate elements of a post oil society which are desparately needed at this time.  I do think that permaculture hasn&#8217;t been great at documenting, testing and researching.  Where are the good examples, what are the yields, what definitely works and what doesn&#8217;t?  Why are there still only a handful of professional permaculture design consultancies out there?  Goodness knows we need them&#8230;</p>

<p><strong>What is the most important contribution permaculture can make as we travel down the learning curve?</strong></p>

<p>It can retrain an astonishingly useless culture, it can help take the fear out of this transition by re-empowering people and showing them the energy that there is in working with other people, it can offer principles to underpin what we do and it can create tangible models, demonstrations of post-oil living.  We should remember that permaculture first emerged in the first oil shocks of the 1970s, and it is now, as we enter the second oil shocks, that we will increasingly need it again, and that more and more people will see the relevance of it.</p>

<p><strong>Any other thoughts as we say goodbye to John and Margaret?</strong></p>

<p>What John and Margaret did in Kinsale was amazing.  They created a space in which eccentric but highly creative people could explore things they would have struggled to do elsewhere.  They felt passionately that education should be about discovery, about collective exploration and about getting your hands dirty.  I always loved the fact that when we would have spent the day building something, and would be filthy dirty, tired but ecstatic, <a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/PA230001.jpg' title='' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/PA230001.thumbnail.jpg' title='' alt='' /></a></p>

<p>they would come out at say &#8220;wow, well done&#8221;, and John would sometimes jig from foot to foot with excitement at what we were doing.  If we are going to model the change we need to see, and if we are going to have the inspired, skilled, creative leaders we need, then courses like the Kinsale course are desparately important.  It was always an honour to work with John and Margaret, and I wish them all the best in their retirement.</p>

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<p><strong>Rob Hopkins, once again, many thanks!</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[End of another year and this time end of an era as John and Margaret Thuillier retire from Kinsale College. John has been a fine director of the college and is leaving a remarkable pedagogical legacy with a thriving Further Education College with many successful courses including of course the unique Practical Sustainability course. Left: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End of another year and this time end of an era as John and Margaret Thuillier retire from Kinsale College.
John has been a fine director of the college and is leaving a remarkable pedagogical legacy with a thriving Further Education College with many successful courses including of course the unique Practical Sustainability course.</p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170110.jpg' title='John and margaret thuillier' ><img class='inthepageleft' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170110.thumbnail.jpg' title='John and margaret thuillier' alt='John and margaret thuillier' /></a></p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170087.jpg' title='John Thuillier' ><img class='inthepageright' src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170087.thumbnail.jpg' title='John Thuillier' alt='John Thuillier' /></a></p>

<p><em>Left: John and Margaret at the Graduation ceremony;
Right: John plays to the crowd</em></p>

<p>Congratulations to all the  second year Permaculture students on all their hard work and contributions to the college, the permaculture course, Transition Towns Kinsale and many other projects. May you now be unleashed on an unsuspecting world and 
carry on your good work wherever you may be.</p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5140082.jpg' title='2nd year graduates' ><img src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5140082.thumbnail.jpg' title='2nd year graduates' alt='2nd year graduates' /></a></p>

<p><em>2nd year Permaculture Graduates Left to right from back:
Shane Gannon, Klaus Harvey, Graham, David neavyn, Mikael Jedhamre, Will Flanagan;
 Susie Cornally, Jeannie Timony, Michelle Nixon;
Front: Tara Kramer, Cathie Clinton, Virginia Stearns, Diane Rogers, Naomi Dowds, Tara O&#8217;Donoghue,Victoria McDonagh</em></p>

<p>Likewise the first year students pictured here with their Permaculture Design Certs, congratulations and many thanks for all your hard work and contributions both in the college and out, and look forward to seeing some of you next year.</p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5130081.jpg' title='' ><img src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5130081.thumbnail.jpg' title='' alt='' /></a></p>

<p><em>Back row L to R: Luc Bouriel, Anja Pawelec, Kevin Dalton, Niamh Dempsey, Brian Brennan, Ed O&#8217;Leary, James barry, Tony Crotty, Seth Sutker, Rob O&#8217;Brien, Chris Michalowicz;
Middle: Cormac McHugh, Susannah Murphy, Saskia Walter,Siobhan Cronin, Cathal Larkin, Ronan Philips, Deidre Duffy, Lea Miklody, Christine Disant, Paul Grimes;
Front: Emily Shakespeare,Gabriella Perslow, Aileen O&#8217;Sullivan, Caroline Flavin, Maria Buitenhuis, Alan Morkan</em></p>

<p>A big thankyou is also due to Margaret and Kathleen for keeping the whole show going; all the other tutors and students who make up the community of the college and make it a truly convivial place to work;</p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P4280005.jpg' title='Margaret and Kathleen' ><img src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P4280005.thumbnail.jpg' title='Margaret and Kathleen' alt='Margaret and Kathleen' /></a></p>

<p>Saturday also saw the last night of this years play directed by Belinda Wild and performed by drama students, the riotous farce by Feydeau   <em>A Flea in Her Ear</em></p>

<p><a href='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170120.jpg' title='A Flea in Her Ear' ><img src='http://zone5.org/wp-content/uploads/P5170120.thumbnail.jpg' title='A Flea in Her Ear' alt='A Flea in Her Ear' /></a></p>

<p><em>Coming soon: exclusive interview with Rob Hopkins on how the Practical Sustainability course got started</em></p>
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