Comments on: Irish Transition Network http://zone5.org/2008/04/irish-transition-network/ ...on the edge between Nature and Culture Thu, 03 May 2012 05:36:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: eddie hAmill http://zone5.org/2008/04/irish-transition-network/comment-page-1/#comment-37400 eddie hAmill Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:09:28 +0000 http://zone5.org/2008/04/17/irish-transition-network/#comment-37400 <p>the trouble is we vote for the politicians and a kicking and screeming politician is about as rare as a turkey voting for christmas.All joking aside better to build a bridge to the politicians door and we all go in kicking and screeming he runs out the back door and we eat the turkey twelve days of christmas rather than steps,no trouble !</p> the trouble is we vote for the politicians and a kicking and screeming politician is about as rare as a turkey voting for christmas.All joking aside better to build a bridge to the politicians door and we all go in kicking and screeming he runs out the back door and we eat the turkey twelve days of christmas rather than steps,no trouble !

]]> By: Mike Grenville http://zone5.org/2008/04/irish-transition-network/comment-page-1/#comment-27053 Mike Grenville Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:11 +0000 http://zone5.org/2008/04/17/irish-transition-network/#comment-27053 <p>surely one of the best ways we have of persuading politicians to change the way they behave is to demonstrate that their electorate have an appetite for change.</p> <p>Politicians have two most important things to think about: 1] get elected 2] get re-elected.</p> <p>If they stand too far out ahead of their electorate they know what will happen. So start putting new ways of organising and living into practice and if they are successful they will be all over them and want to be associated with them.</p> <p>It really is time for us to 'be the change we want to see in the world' as Ghandi said. We can no longer wait for 'them' to do it for us. The best way to predict the future is to start creating it.</p> surely one of the best ways we have of persuading politicians to change the way they behave is to demonstrate that their electorate have an appetite for change.

Politicians have two most important things to think about: 1] get elected 2] get re-elected.

If they stand too far out ahead of their electorate they know what will happen. So start putting new ways of organising and living into practice and if they are successful they will be all over them and want to be associated with them.

It really is time for us to ‘be the change we want to see in the world’ as Ghandi said. We can no longer wait for ‘them’ to do it for us. The best way to predict the future is to start creating it.

]]> By: Michael Connolly http://zone5.org/2008/04/irish-transition-network/comment-page-1/#comment-23516 Michael Connolly Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:11:43 +0000 http://zone5.org/2008/04/17/irish-transition-network/#comment-23516 <p>I have one big problem with the transition 12 steps there is no strategy for draging local politicians kicking and screeming into the real world or by any other means that would work. The difficulty we have is that politics works in the opposite way to "us" it is hierarchical and we can only infulence it from the top down. These turkeys will continue voting for christmas until we find a way to convince them to do otherwise.</p> I have one big problem with the transition 12 steps there is no strategy for draging local politicians kicking and screeming into the real world or by any other means that would work. The difficulty we have is that politics works in the opposite way to “us” it is hierarchical and we can only infulence it from the top down. These turkeys will continue voting for christmas until we find a way to convince them to do otherwise.

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