Comments on: Back to Nature #4: The Trouble with Green http://zone5.org/2008/01/back-to-nature-4-the-trouble-with-green/ ...on the edge between Nature and Culture Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:05:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Susan Butler http://zone5.org/2008/01/back-to-nature-4-the-trouble-with-green/comment-page-1/#comment-17373 Susan Butler Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:50:36 +0000 http://zone5.org/2008/01/13/back-to-nature-4-the-trouble-with-green/#comment-17373 <p>Thank-you, Graham, for the klarity and beauty of this thinking. The Greens' "very efforts to save her are destroying Gaia," from Wilber, reminds me of the idea that perputually thinking of negatives, ie the horrible stories of pollution, et al; and aktively resisting the reality of these things somehow only strengthens them. Not that we should not know them, of kourse, it is nessesary to fase up to them, with akseptanse fully admitting the reality and feeling the pain. With kompassion, understanding and gratitude about what has kome before in sosiety, as you deskribe as possible, perhaps makes the pain easier to bear, also with imagination about what good things may happen in future. I too thought of kids as founts of kreativity and "naturalness." (I am not a mother.) I felt pretty blank when I ran "Kool Breeses Summer Day Kamp" and found that, on the kontrary, they are blank slates in need of being written upon. In Nelson, British Kolumbia, a New Age hot spot, I wondered at folks' always referring to anything Native Amerikan with awe as the model for all desision-making and behavior. This kontrasted sharply with my university arheology text on the subjekt desribing a rather brutal and diffikult life. (Please forgive missing letter keys.) --Susan Butler</p> Thank-you, Graham, for the klarity and beauty of this thinking. The Greens’ “very efforts to save her are destroying Gaia,” from Wilber, reminds me of the idea that perputually thinking of negatives, ie the horrible stories of pollution, et al; and aktively resisting the reality of these things somehow only strengthens them. Not that we should not know them, of kourse, it is nessesary to fase up to them, with akseptanse fully admitting the reality and feeling the pain. With kompassion, understanding and gratitude about what has kome before in sosiety, as you deskribe as possible, perhaps makes the pain easier to bear, also with imagination about what good things may happen in future. I too thought of kids as founts of kreativity and “naturalness.” (I am not a mother.) I felt pretty blank when I ran “Kool Breeses Summer Day Kamp” and found that, on the kontrary, they are blank slates in need of being written upon. In Nelson, British Kolumbia, a New Age hot spot, I wondered at folks’ always referring to anything Native Amerikan with awe as the model for all desision-making and behavior. This kontrasted sharply with my university arheology text on the subjekt desribing a rather brutal and diffikult life. (Please forgive missing letter keys.) –Susan Butler

]]> By: Mari Shackell http://zone5.org/2008/01/back-to-nature-4-the-trouble-with-green/comment-page-1/#comment-16116 Mari Shackell Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:25:33 +0000 http://zone5.org/2008/01/13/back-to-nature-4-the-trouble-with-green/#comment-16116 <p>Yes! I'm very interested in this article as, to me, the "yellow" stage has always seemed a bit of a mystery - paradoxically, it seems much easier to understand the turquoise stage!</p> <p>I'm sure you're right when you say that the Transition Culture is not just about "greenies" and "greenness" - which for all its virtues also definitely has its limitations, but a step on from this.</p> <p>So please do continue!</p> <p>(incidentally, who are you, Graham?)</p> Yes! I’m very interested in this article as, to me, the “yellow” stage has always seemed a bit of a mystery – paradoxically, it seems much easier to understand the turquoise stage!

I’m sure you’re right when you say that the Transition Culture is not just about “greenies” and “greenness” – which for all its virtues also definitely has its limitations, but a step on from this.

So please do continue!

(incidentally, who are you, Graham?)

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