This ‘hole’ ‘debate’ has lost the plot. i mean ‘What is the point again?’ Are we talking about Permaculture(ie whole systems theory or ecology applied to agriculture practice) Geomancy(Earth energy patterns) Deep Ecology(philosophy that considers humankind an integral part of its enviroment) Paranormal Research Folklore Free Energy(try tai chi) Ethics Antropology Sociology, Two halves of politics And what ever your having yourself.

A reflection of our post modern world is’ way, way, way, too much going on here’ Way too many topics being covered.Most of which are half truths. The rational mind as great at putting 2 and 2 together and getting 44(thats push the first two digits beside each other,and pick a random number as the answer) Any one point of discussion should be well worked before we move on,I feel a clash of ‘thought processes’ was throwing our rational scientific approach off the mark(need to recalibrate) Fortunately,we are using the internet so no ‘sensitivety’,or emotional frequencies can affect the instrumentation.

Somebody hit the reset button.and all we might learn something.